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up_the_ante
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2008-01-03
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| I thought this pretty much went without saying. I always assumed it would. Will be interesting to see what they can do with the console versions. No doubt it will be a much vaunted comparison test for the respective consoles abilities in the ol' never ending PS3 vs 360 battle. |
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Anjel_Few
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2008-01-03
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| Its Ubi, of course it is. They can't seem to leave anything exclusive anymore, they are almost as bad/Worse then EA for "multiplatform" games. I hate it, i wish they would leave some things on PC, now i can imagine how dumbed down its gunna be....God i hate what they have become. |
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Neeyik
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2008-01-04
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| You're being somewhat naive. The development cost of a triple-A title is pretty scary these days, so the only way to maximise the retail revenue to offset that cost is to create a multiplatform title - that is unless every PC gamer is willing to pay double the normal price for a PC game. |
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Anjel_Few
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2008-01-04
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Originally Posted by Neeyik
You're being somewhat naive. The development cost of a triple-A title is pretty scary these days, so the only way to maximise the retail revenue to offset that cost is to create a multiplatform title - that is unless every PC gamer is willing to pay double the normal price for a PC game.
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I understand that to a point Neeyik, but Ubi used to be awesome with PC games, i mean R63: Raven Sheild and Far Cry and they were great PC games, and now with them going mutiplatform PC Last, the PC games that used to be amazing....are pretty lackluster now. So i feel as though i have a right to be slightly perterbed about it. |
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_FAKE_
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2008-01-04
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| Will Far Cry 2 not be using the same engine as Crysis? I just don't see how the PS3 and X360 can handle that type of torture. They will be limited to DX9 also and miss out on a lot of the visuals. That or Far Cry 2 won't be nearly as demanding as Crysis. |
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Dibrom
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2008-01-04
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Originally Posted by _FAKE_
Will Far Cry 2 not be using the same engine as Crysis? I just don't see how the PS3 and X360 can handle that type of torture. They will be limited to DX9 also and miss out on a lot of the visuals. That or Far Cry 2 won't be nearly as demanding as Crysis.
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FarCry 2 is not using the Cry Engine 1 or 2. Nor does it have Jack Carver in it. Or Trigens. Makes you wonder why they bothered to call it Far Cry 2. |
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HomeBrewPCiq
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2008-01-04
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Originally Posted by Anjel_Few
I understand that to a point Neeyik, but Ubi used to be awesome with PC games, i mean R63: Raven Sheild and Far Cry and they were great PC games, and now with them going mutiplatform PC Last, the PC games that used to be amazing....are pretty lackluster now. So i feel as though i have a right to be slightly perterbed about it.
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I think your real problem here is that PC gaming is no longer a top priority for game makers on the whole. Dont blame Ubi for changing with the times, blame yourself for being selfish and naive enough to think modern gaming should revolve around the PC. Thoes times are gone, long live the console... Cha ching!
It's not even a choice anymore, its a matter of survival. |
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HomeBrewPCiq
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2008-01-04
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Originally Posted by _FAKE_
Will Far Cry 2 not be using the same engine as Crysis? I just don't see how the PS3 and X360 can handle that type of torture. They will be limited to DX9 also and miss out on a lot of the visuals. That or Far Cry 2 won't be nearly as demanding as Crysis.
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You do understand the difference between programing for a console and a PC and the extreme benefits of programing for consoles(standardised hardware), right?
And from what I have seen, the difference between DX9 and DX10 is slim...
What 'visuals' do you think console gamers will 'miss out' on exactly? |
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Dibrom
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2008-01-04
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Originally Posted by HomeBrewPCiq
What 'visuals' do you think console gamers will 'miss out' on exactly?
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Well, I can think of a lot of 'visuals' that will have to be 'compromised' to fit into a 'system' with less then 512megs of RAM. |
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ajbarnes
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2008-01-04
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Originally Posted by Dibrom
FarCry 2 is not using the Cry Engine 1 or 2. Nor does it have Jack Carver in it. Or Trigens. Makes you wonder why they bothered to call it Far Cry 2.
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Brand recognition. Ubisoft focus-grouped this one to death. |
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_FAKE_
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2008-01-04
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Originally Posted by HomeBrewPCiq
You do understand the difference between programing for a console and a PC and the extreme benefits of programing for consoles(standardised hardware), right?
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Yes I do understand the difference. And I do understand its WAY easier to optimize a game for the console than a PC. But no matter how much you optimize Far Cry 2. If its as demanding as Crysis, theres no way in the world it will run on a console. Unless some visuals are taken out or severely lowered. but My question was answered previously. Far Cry 2 will not be using the Cry Engine 1-2 and obviously doesn't sound as fun as I thought. I salute you jack Carver and Trigens.
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Originally Posted by HomeBrewPCiq
And from what I have seen, the difference between DX9 and DX10 is slim...
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Probably because no game fully supports DX10 yet that I can think off.
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Originally Posted by HomeBrewPCiq
What 'visuals' do you think console gamers will 'miss out' on exactly?
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Well that depends on how demanding Far Cry 2 is. Why don't they try and run Crysis on console? My guess is that they will not be able to cope, and they will be forced to remove some of the visuals and special effects which will make the game look dull. And people won't like this. |
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djdel002
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2008-01-04
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| Nice that's it's coming for those systems. I just hope it's awesome for PC. I really loved the first one. Makes me nervous when they make games for so many systems at once. Hope they take their time and do it right. |
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_FAKE_
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2008-01-04
#13
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Originally Posted by djdel002
Nice that's it's coming for those systems. I just hope it's awesome for PC. I really loved the first one. Makes me nervous when they make games for so many systems at once. Hope they take their time and do it right.
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So do I, but if you read the previous posts, its not going to be like the old Far Cry we all know and love. |
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Neeyik
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2008-01-04
#14
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Originally Posted by Anjel_Few
I understand that to a point Neeyik, but Ubi used to be awesome with PC games, i mean R63: Raven Sheild and Far Cry and they were great PC games, and now with them going mutiplatform PC Last, the PC games that used to be amazing....are pretty lackluster now. So i feel as though i have a right to be slightly perterbed about it.
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Far Cry is very much an exception (in the same way that Crysis is) as Crytek received a lot of support and help from IHVs during their early days; especially when they worked on demos of X-Isle (the game that never was). R63:RS and FC eventually went multiplatform anyway, if not quite through direct ports, but given that the devs were Ubisoft themselves in both, that shouldn't be a surprise - it's not like this is something new for the company. |
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kitch9
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2008-01-04
#15
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Originally Posted by Neeyik
You're being somewhat naive. The development cost of a triple-A title is pretty scary these days, so the only way to maximise the retail revenue to offset that cost is to create a multiplatform title - that is unless every PC gamer is willing to pay double the normal price for a PC game.
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It would be a start if PC gamers actually paid for their games in the first place. I bet Ubi looked at Crysis figures and let out a litlle parp.... |
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